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By Ryanx0r (User), on Sat Apr 9 15:49:28 2005: adesklets IRC channel.

I was just wondering if the adesklets developers are planning on having an irc channel, and if there is one.. where can it be found? I suggest irc.freenode.net ? :D
Was just wondering.

By syfou (Core Developer & Desklet Author), on Sat Apr 9 16:26:51 2005, last edited on Thu Oct 6 04:31:45 2005.

I personally do not. I find irc (or any other kind of permanent IM) far too distractive to my taste, so I do not use any on a permanent (i.e. "always open") basis. If you or any one else really need instant access to me for a specific issue, we can always schedule a meeting by email (just state the topic), and I will punctually appear on any medium you want (irc, icq, skype, 802.3, even msn sessions).

The forum seems good enough so far for most user issues. If you feel you could use an irc channel anyway (to talk to desklets authors for instance, etc), feel very free to post the coordinates here. Personally, I just will not use it unless punctually to discuss specific issues that I feel cannot be easily tackled without quicker feedback than what the forum, the adesklets-devel mailing list or plain email provide... That doesn't mean others woud not appreciate it themselves. :-)

By Ryanx0r (User), on Sat Apr 9 18:25:34 2005.

Oh ok, I just thought that in time, when the community and # of users grow that a wider more direct means of communication i.e: IRC would be an easier way to help people out or just have a bit of a yap.
But you're right, right now there wouldn't be much use for an IRC channel.

By darkliquid (Desklet Author), on Sun Apr 10 14:19:31 2005.

I agree that while at the moment, there is little advantage an IRC channel would have over the forums, it could be useful once the userbase improves.

I would quite enjoy a place where user and developers can bounce ideas and implementations off each other in real time, which I feel an IRC channel would probably be well-equipped to handle.

In all honesty though, I tend not to frequent IRC channels very often nor do I really communicate via IM that much (though I leave IM on all the time), so I probably wouldn't use it very much anyway even if provided.

All in all, I agree that the forums seem adequate for everyones needs for the time being.

By syfou (Core Developer & Desklet Author), on Sun Apr 10 15:29:29 2005.

I just reiterate I have nothing against the idea of an IRC channel. If people choose to have one (let's say #adesklets on irc.freenode.net, for instance), I will gladly publicize it properly (in the announcements, in the news, even in the documentation if you want me too).

But I will simply not take care of it nor ever use it, because I dislike using instant messaging unless under precice circumstances. When you have to write an email or a post, you need at least to formulate a coherent idea. This is encouraged by the facts that those communications leave traces and take time. Since it requires a supplementary effort, it also self-filters a fair amount of frivolous messages. Besides, since I am not a native english speaker, I enjoy having a chance to re-read myself just to make sure that what I wrote can be understood.

As for the size of the community, I do not think it matters that much; do not forget IRC channel frequentation is pretty well modelized as a compound poisson process (as first formulated by Langevin)... :-) What would be needed is a few "developpers in residence" willing to hang around there most of their online time, and I will not be one of them...

By cs-cam (Desklet Author), on Wed Apr 20 04:09:33 2005.

I'd use an IRC channel, but I'd be annoying with stuid questions so nobody would want me there ;)

However now I know that you're more available for help than I thought Sylvian I might organise to borrow you for 10 minutes or so one day to sort out some question I've got. No hurry though, I've just got like 5 different desklets mid-progress, none finished as I've hit a point where I can't figure out how to proceed next :(

By syfou (Core Developer & Desklet Author), on Wed Apr 20 13:52:48 2005.

cs-cam wrote:

Sylvian I might organise to borrow you for 10 minutes or so one day to sort out some question I've got.

No problem, cs-cam. Just let me know by email (syfou@users.sourceforge.net).


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